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June 10, 2006

Phil Hare's game

Re: Phil Hare's failure to resign from Rep. Lane Evans' staff, as ethics rules require, when he announced that he is a candidate for Rep. Evans' job:

I am a chess player, so will cast this in chess terms.

Phil Hare lost a pawn in the opening. That's often enough to cost even the stronger player the game, unless there is "compensation" -- control of a critical square, an open file on which to attack or faster deployment of the pieces.

If you lose a pawn in the opening without some compensation, it's called a "blunder."

Phil Hare just blundered.

He should have known the rules. He should have acted on the knowledge two months ago.

He knew the question existed. He said he "looked through" the ethics rules. He just missed the part that applied to him -- until a reporter called it to his attention.

So, here's the question that will be asked, in some form or another, about 10 million times between now and November: Mr. Hare, are you too ignorant to understand the rules you looked through, or too arrogant to believe you had to follow them?

That Mr. Hare did resign, once the press inquired, doesn't really provide an answer. He's just playing a pawn down now.

Posted by jcb at June 10, 2006 05:50 PM

Comments

From the U.S. House Ethics Guide that Hare said that he read and didn't think applied to him. He said he had to talk to a Committee lawyer to explain whether it applied to him:

CANDIDACY OF A HOUSE EMPLOYEE FOR ELECTIVE OFFICE

At times a House employee wishes to commence his or her own candidacy for an elective office while continuing as an employee. There is no absolute prohibition against a staff member becoming a candidate for a local elective office, but such activity is subject to a number of restrictions. Most importantly, the individual's employing Member must consent to the candidacy, and the employee must comply with the rules and requirements on performing campaign activity that are summarized above. Those requirements include that the employee perform congressional duties that are commensurate with the compensation he or she receives from the House and thus that compensation be reduced proportionately with any reduction in the employee's time in the congressional office and that any campaign activity be performed on the individual's own time, and outside of congressional space. Further guidance on the matter of staff candidacy for local office is provided on pp. 116-17 of the House Ethics Manual. An employee considering a candidacy for elective office should contact the Committee for specific advice.

However, different considerations apply where a Member is departing office, and one of his or her employees wishes to become a candidate to succeed the Member. In that circumstance, the Committee has taken the position that the staff member must terminate his or her employment in the congressional office upon becoming a candidate. Among the considerations on which this Committee determination is based are the significant time demands of a congressional candidacy, and the strong potential for conflict of interest where an employee is seeking to succeed his or her employing Member.

The Committee has also determined that, subject to certain restrictions, a staff member contemplating becoming a candidate to succeed his or her employing Member may engage in pre-candidacy, "testing the waters" activities without terminating his or her congressional employment. The restrictions include that the individual may do so only if his or her employing Member consents, the employee complies with the rules and regulations that are generally applicable to campaign activity by employees, and the employee?s activities do not go beyond "testing the waters" as defined by the FEC. The permissible "testing the waters" activities are described in the FEC publication, Campaign Guide for Congressional Candidates and Committees. Among the activities that are prohibited under that advice are any that indicate that the individual has in fact become a candidate, such as the use of general public political advertising, or the raising of funds beyond those reasonably necessary to determine whether one should become a candidate.

Posted by: Anon at June 10, 2006 10:23 PM

I'm a Chess player too. But Im also a poker player and I can't believe Hare thought he could bluff his way through this by saying that he reviewed the book and bla bla bla.....

OK here is the real story. I think Hare should turn over the phone records of his taxpyer paid for office to PROVE that he did not use any taxpayer money to call committemen to get this selection. He has already been quoted in the paper that he only used his cell phone.

His credibility has taken a hit and I am convinced his has abused the taxpayer trust in getting this position by having the taxpayers pay for it.

Posted by: Ice Man at June 10, 2006 11:00 PM

Hello, I've been voting Democrat for 12 years
in the QC and have seen the light with this
race for the 17th District.
Honestly we should not put Mr.Hare in office.
He's for himself and the $$$. He lies!!

I think Zinga would try hard to give us all a fair shake in DC.

Anyone who wants to try and build up this area
deserves a chance. Were in bad shape.

Posted by: Doug at June 10, 2006 11:58 PM

Dear Ice man, You sound like a pretty smart guy.
I've known Hare for about 9 years and must say
he is the type of guy that will take what he can
and play dumb if he gets caught doing wrong.

Posted by: Bill at June 11, 2006 12:02 AM

Just read the various blogs and other posts made by blog commenters. The backroom deals made to get Hare elected are already starting to leak out. No doubt some of them are supposition, but truth is usually leaked out by those gleeful and unable to keep their mouths shut when they have cheated the system.


One article I read by Moline D Maverick made the statement that the way the district is setup it will be an almost impossibility for any democrat not to win and it is pretty much a waste of time by those pushing a Zinga possibility. I feel that is pretty close to the truth. The Party could roll out Josef Mengele under the guise of a misconstrued Democratic abortionist and the Politically Blind of the party would vote for him. A similar scenario could be said of the Republican Party in those areas they control, roll out Heinrich Himmler and stamp him as Red White and Blue and their Politically Blind would do the same. Compounding this problem, as I see it, is that The Republicans seem to have allowed the Neo-Cons to take the control of their party. Plus the Democrats seemed to have allowed the ultra-liberals (they prefer the term progressive) to do the same. Both parties in the regions between the East and West Coast contain more moderate voters than either of the ruling factions.


Several years ago I had a friend that started socializing with a Nietzsche spewing crowd through a guy she was dating. I had never heard of the philosopher and researched Nietzsche and did not like what I found out. His philosophy left a terrible taste in my mouth in addition some of his philosophy was rewritten by his sister, a Nazi sympathizer, in efforts to promote the idea of a German Master Race. But over the last few years the ruling factions of the Democrat and Republican parties seem to have adopted his theory of the "Ubermensch". My limited understanding of that theory asserts that a superior leader should impose his will on the rest of the people, as the masses are generally weak and insignificant in the overall survival of man. My translation would be Sheep for the Slaughter. Also it sort of reminded me of the Machiavellian philosophy of "the ends justifies the means", that Nixon was supposed to be fond of. I associate this to my observances of the political system over the couple of decades. A very small minority of people seem to be running this country on both sides of the Political Aisle. The rest of each party just seem to play follow the leader and drool over their propaganda feasts while the apathetic slumber in ornate comatose dreams. I am not sure what that says about us as a people. Are the rest of us just stepping-stones for our Political Faction Masters? If not why do we let the far left and the far right rule our lives, parties and government? If we want control back how do we attain it? This district is in dismal conditions. We have immediate economic needs and both parties offered up puppets spouting their usual party rhetoric that will not solve those problems. The politically blind are already waving their victory flags for their messengers. The most important question for me is, can a majority awaken out of the disillusioned and apathetic voters then unite around and find a candidate that will champion our district? Or will we continue to be the servants of the Ubermensch? Sadly I have more questions than answers.

Posted by: NMP at June 11, 2006 02:58 AM

This district is a swing district. Bush lost by 3 points. NMP is right. "Both parties in the regions between the East and West Coast contain more moderate voters than either of the ruling factions."
Phil Hare is an extreme lefist in his positions, universal health care for example, and the moderates of this district are looking for someone to gravatate to. You can argue if they will go to Zinga but I call tell you that Hare turns off moderates and that is what allowed Kerry to win this district in 2004. Translation: If moderates sit home Hare is in trouble.

Posted by: Ice Man at June 11, 2006 12:51 PM

Some disjointed comments:

1. I couldn't agree more with NMP, and other commenters/bloggers who point out the futility of raging against the machine. Phil Hare could be caught on tape doing the nasty on the RICO Courthouse lawn (sorry, I stole that from Zappa) and still get elected. It's just a fact. We have to deal with it.

2. There does seem to be widespread unrest across the land about how the Dems and GOP ignore what the public wants and instead follow the agenda of their K Street constituency and their respective extremists. Their fecklessness in dealing with the immigration issue, which is one of the top concerns of bipartisan voters, by both parties, has given rise to much third party talk, including the organization of this movement, known as Unity08.

3.In the D/A account of Hare's ethics violation, a "reporter" is credited with asking Hare about his possible ethics problem. Neither the reporter or the organization was named. If said "reporter" is an employee of the D/A, I want apologize for and take back the mean things I said about the D/A in a previous thread.

4. Considering all the nonsense that has gone on here lately, am I the only one who has lost the capacity for outrage concerning local politics? Just askin'.

Posted by: paladin at June 11, 2006 02:02 PM

IF ONLY:

Just imagine if Sullivan or Schweibert had been smart enough to pick up on this.

Posted by: Anon at June 11, 2006 04:54 PM

Democrat District, yes. Clearly Hare is a weak candidate, either inept or arrogant - either is not an attractive reality.

The question in my mind is...can Zinga, who had 58% of Republicans vote against her when they knew her and did not know (at least not well) her opponents, motivate Republicans who clearly do not embrace her, can she attract Independents and/ or Moderate Democrats in numbers enough to win.

Hare is totally out of his league just running for office (even Lane Evans knows this and orchestrated this game because of this), yet Zinga is so unlikeable (her first chance to comment on Hare's nomination was, again, a negative/ critical comment)...will any Independent or Moderate D or R care to even vote?

Posted by: havinfun at June 11, 2006 08:31 PM


I'm not as concerned about how well Mr. Hare read the congressional ethics manual, but the actions he took to resign from his congressional directorship. Analyzing why he made the right move may be an exercise in futility and a waste of time. He made the right decision. That's the key factor here in my view.

Posted by: Values Matter at June 12, 2006 09:35 AM

Values Matter:

If Hare can't read, why do you want to send him to Congress?

Posted by: Anon at June 12, 2006 09:51 AM


The vast majority of Congressmen and women don't read everything they vote on or act on. The key here is when presented with the correct information and interpretation, Mr. Hare acted decisively and correctly.

Posted by: Values Matter at June 12, 2006 10:21 AM

Values Matter

Hare said he did read it and didn't understand it the way its supposed to be understood.

Most people would have no trouble understanding what he read.

Also, it says once you decide to run you must quit. How is he being decisive by dragging out the quitting.

Posted by: Anon at June 12, 2006 12:58 PM

Mr. Hare was wrong and quickly corrected himself. How many thousands of deaths would have been prevented if the same could be said of Mr. Bush?

A vote for Ms Zinga is a vote of approval for Mr. Bush.

Posted by: Tom Tom at June 12, 2006 12:59 PM

One thing that has bothered me from the start of the Hare Politburo appointment, over what I saw as some very real choices inside the party for the first time in a long time, is why the local media has been so hands off and silent on the way the Democratic Party resolved the issues starting from before the Primary. The only thing I read were soft articles without question and answer objectives from the media. If this had been Big City, USA, every media outlet would have been mercilessly sticking their nose into every nook and cranny and writing stories seeking answers about the coming inauguration process and Evans? health and whether or not he had the ability to continue serving this district. He has had health problems for years and his voting attendance had already been questioned. A diligently inquisitive media would have at the very least alerted contenders for the post that an opportunity could be imparting itself. It would have also prompted the Party to be less obvious in the way they installed a replacement hopefully giving the voters a say in the matter. Was it just genuine disinterest? Was it a lack of Deep Throats or just some media management flu like decision to give the party a blind eye? There are some of us that feel cheated by the party and the media in the handling of this set of questionable circumstances. And I am curious as to how the media, who are the eyes, ears and often the alarm-clock of the everyday citizen, missed out on a real opportunity to serve the community by posing questions and posting answers instead of letting the Party officals snowball them with fluff.

Posted by: NoMorePinocchios at June 12, 2006 01:45 PM

Does anyone know where Hare went to high school and whether he got a diploma. If he didn't get a diploma, does he have a GED?

Posted by: Anonymous at June 12, 2006 02:50 PM

FOR WHAT ITS WORTH:

With Hare's decisive win, any challenge to the selection process would have been viewed as sour grapes.

But, if the Committeemen had known about Hare violating the ethics rules would they still have picked him?

Does it make sense for Sullivan, but more likely Schweibert, to put in a challenge and hope for a revote?

Two possible grounds to challenge:

1. There was no quorum of the committeemen at the appointment convention.
2. The appointed committeemen were not allowed to vote.

Posted by: Anon at June 12, 2006 03:43 PM

Whoever had this information and decided to sit on it is wrong. If they just found out that is understandable, but this political game of strategically holding information is deplorable. If you have information you should reveal it the minute you find out – you have an obligation to do that. The person that revealed the violation could have even been a bigger person and contacted Hare directly to see if he was aware of the rule. None of that happened that is why I do not put that much stock into the supposed violation or do I have any faith in the person that presented this information to the media.

I agree that the media had "soft" coverage during the nomination process. They did not push the candidates for specifics - which I was very willing to provide, but they understood the nature of it. 95% of all of the precinct committee members had their minds made up before they heard from any of the candidates. I have said it before - you could not get just 10 Democrats to agree if Santa Claus was the candidate, but miraculously entire counties voted for a single candidate. Moreover, members were not allowed to vote independently. There was significant pressure in Adams County for example to vote for Sullivan. If any member would have broke away and voted for another candidate they would have been banished to the land of irrelevance. The only person that did vote for a candidate other than Sullivan has already been banished. I am guessing that occurred in other counties, as well. That does not sound like a democracy to me - that sounds like party operations of the communists in the USSR in the 70s. In the end, in might have worked for Hare’s supporters but what did it get those who supported Sullivan, Schwiebert, or Boland - NOTHING but hard feelings. I was a part of all of the forums and the final nomination process. In those events the candidates praised each other and claimed to support the eventual winner. I don't know - how many candidates have come out and openly supported Hare - beside myself? I do not like the system and I think it needs to change, but I told all of the candidates that I would support the winner and that is exactly what I intend to do.

Posted by: Rob Mellon at June 12, 2006 03:55 PM

Does anyone here know for how many years Andrea Zinga has been unemployed? Talk about hurting the reputation of our district -- sending an unemployed candidate to Congress.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 12, 2006 04:11 PM

The Machine will supply Brother Hare with all the votes he needs. Just as they did during the appoinment of Congressman Hare.

For people to suggest they are somehow better positioned than the Machine to reward others is crazy talk. The reason the Machine runs Rock IslandCounty is that the leaders are better prepared than the rabble to make daily decisions for the whole. The idea of direct democracy is foreign to the American way of life. In America we favor goverment that acts for, not represents.

Posted by: neitzsche at June 12, 2006 04:18 PM

Mr. Mellon:

There was no strategic information being withheld. The above posted extract from the House Ethics Manual is available on the web with 3 clicks.
Wasn't it your job to do opposition research?
Also, as a school teacher you are telling us that after reading the Ethics Manual extract posted above you don't know what it says? You don't know that it says as soon as Hare decided to run for Evans seat he was to quit his job?

Posted by: Anon at June 12, 2006 04:48 PM

I feel your pain NoMoPin. I regularly rail against press fecklessness in covering our elected (or selected) officials in DC and Springfield.

I'm opening the door to D/A and am hoping jcb will either confirm or deny that the "reporter" who pressed Hare about his ethics violation is with the D/A.

But more typical is the puff piece that the D/A did with Lane Evans right before the '04 election. Without follow up, he was allowed to bash Bush and imply that Bush Lied!(tm), even though Bush wasn't running for Congressman in the IL 17th District; he was allowed to state that he "could do the job" if re-elected, without press follow-up, which we now know was not true; and he was allowed to play the victim card, without press follow-up, by saying, disingenuously, that he didn't understand why Zinga was questioning his health, even though many of us had questions about it (and the press should have had, too) and the facts now show Zinga was correct.

I'm too lazy to get a link to the story now, but read it if you can----it reads like a PR puff piece and demonstrates that the D/A wasn't serious about asking Lane Evans tough questions and were instead acting as his enablers.

Posted by: paladin at June 12, 2006 04:53 PM

Anonymous at June 12, 2006 04:11 PM...

Zinga doesn't necessarily have to work. She is married and perhaps she's now just a housewife who is running for the House. Does she HAVE to be employed to be a representative? Bet you're the person who was harping on the fact that she couldn't hold a job. If it is, it shows what you know about broadcasters.

Posted by: Watcher at June 12, 2006 06:54 PM

It doesn't matter what Hare does. He hedged his bet if he wins he leaves and at worst pays backpay at best he is the Congressman. It worked out for him to be congressman. The people have spoken. Long live John G! Long Live Congressman Hare! Long live the Machine!!!

Posted by: The Machinist at June 12, 2006 08:37 PM

Machinist -- are you really just a sycophant of "the machine" or are you a GOP operative attempting to stir up additional resentment?

Paladin -- it was an alert D/A reporter who went on line and read the ethics committee rules.

Posted by: jcb at June 12, 2006 09:12 PM


John -

You are right on. What is it with these folks praising with obvious excess the merits of "The Machine"? I'm beginning to wonder if they are GOP operatives trying to stir up resentment.

Posted by: grillmaster deluxe II at June 12, 2006 10:36 PM

Grill, I've been wondering the same for a long time. If Democrats are writing that stuff, I must not be getting invited to the "secret society" pancake breakfasts because the only place I hear talk like that is from anon commenters and Maoists.

JCB, pass on an "attaboy" to the wrascal(s) that read the rules and asked the questions. We need more of that in the next few months!

Posted by: Huck Finn at June 12, 2006 11:32 PM

The truth is that Hare knew from the begining what he was doing to say otherwise is just plain silly. Hare is a schrewd congressman.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 13, 2006 09:25 AM

First people say that Mark Schwiebert will win. He is the most qualified. He is a lawyer. Endorsed by the paper. Then they say that it is Sullivans because there are too many from RICO. RICO doesn't have the votes because unfilled positions. Hare no collage education. Lane leaves office early to help his friend. People say it will hurt Hare. Hare in a landslide. Lane Evans has a battle in court to get guardianship from his family and to his political Chief of Staff. When do you see this happen. This is The Machine. try and deny it and you will be run over to. Long Live John G! Long Live Lane Evans! Long Live The Machine!!!

Posted by: The Machinist at June 13, 2006 09:36 AM

I will admit, I doubted the machine. I am shocked that the machine apparently has the ability that it does.

I also am disappointed that the machine apparently has no interest in helping the area, or the district. Lane Evans was a terrible Congressman from a Jobs/ Economic Development point of view. The area is flushing slowly down the toilet and he never did anything to assist a turnaround, let alone lead a turnaround.

Yes, apparently the machine does have the strength that you state - that is why I am moving to Iowa!

Posted by: havinfun at June 13, 2006 10:40 AM

Anon 4:48

In the nomination process I was more interested in presenting what I would do. I did not waste my time on the opposition nor did I think it was my responsibility.

Let's get real here though - Hare announced his candidacy in April and this revelation that could be gained in “3 clicks” comes out right after his nomination. Moreover, you are trying to be clever, but it is not working - 3 clicks. You would have to know what links to go to and then what pages to access - that requires a little more than 3 clicks. You would then need a working knowledge of House documents and procedure. It sounds like something that a lawyer could do with some research, but not your average citizen. My guess is that is was a lawyer that found this information and presented it to the media.

Do not think that information is withheld in many circumstances. I was merely stating that is part of the problem in modern politics.

Posted by: Rob Mellon at June 13, 2006 03:48 PM

Wowser! I love a good conspiracy theory! Mellon sez: "My guess is that it was a lawyer that found this information and presented it to the media."

That was my original thought too; that an angry candidate/committeeperson leaked information to the press as payback to the politburo for their political chicanery and dirty dealings. If it was a lawyer, as Mellon opines, that would probably be Schweibert.

But wait! jcb sez it was a D/A reporter who dug this out on his/her own.

What's a conspiracy theorist to think?

Posted by: paladin at June 13, 2006 04:56 PM


Ahh, but the plot thickens. Inquiring minds want to know how long Ms. Zinga has been unemployed or has she been receiving unemployment checks from the government (i.e. us)?

The silence has been deafening.

Posted by: Junior Grillmaster at June 13, 2006 07:14 PM

Ask Art Bell and George Noory when it comes to conspiracy they are the leaders in presentation and promotion. Was there any UFO activity involved in the conspiracy? They will take it national (with millions of listeners every night from midnight to 4 am) if you can find a way to link it to UFO’s, Big Foot, The Moth Man, the 9-11 Twin Towers/Pentagon theories or the skull and bones secret society. My conspiracy theory is it was nasty good old boy politics at its worst. And with any conspiracy eventually braggarts come forth when they have cheated the system. Think maybe I could tie Gianulis and cronies to the skull and bones society, Bush and Kerry are already members why not them?

Posted by: NMP at June 13, 2006 09:46 PM

No conspiracy theory - and I most definitely did not mention Mayor Schwiebert. In my opinion I just did not think that information was readily available, as some have contended. I would also believe that an investigative reporter found the information. I would much rather talk about what needs to be done to improve the lives of the people in the district. Conspiracy theories are a tremendous waste of energy I should not have posited that a lawyer must have been involved. I don't know - so I need to stick to to the facts.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 13, 2006 10:03 PM

Junior Grillmaster asked: "Inquiring minds want to know how long Ms. Zinga has been unemployed or has she been receiving unemployment checks from the government (i.e. us)?"

Grill Junior: read my post up above. And note, she's been not working long enough that she probably doesn't qualify for unemployment. But who cares? If she's entitled, she should get it. What about Hare and his suspected politiking while still working for King Evans? Inquiring minds would really like to know what happened there.

Posted by: Watcher at June 15, 2006 01:07 PM

If Zinga chose the role of a housewife over a career in broadcasting, I say bravo for her. I read where she had several stepchildren. And anyone willing to go through the tortures of a housewife's day-to-day operation and help raise several children has seen more workload and challenges than the average person will see in a lifetime of working for the man. I watched my mother raise us children, keep track of the budget, balance finances, see to it that we made it to school and dad made it work, take care of the household and help us with our personal life growing up. And when times were tough she would take on a job and still keep track of all the other things she was in charge of. A housewife's job is one of the most challenging and thankless jobs ever taken on. She has many parts to her chosen career; accountant, manager, problem solver, negotiator, sheriff, judge, jury and most of all nurturer. Never devalue a housewife; they are true superwomen especially when raising multiple children are involved. I quote Bill Cosby when discussing his wife and dealing with the everyday responsibilities they are required to handle; "I don't know when my wife became the boss. But I've seen the boss's job and I don't want it. And I still don't understand how she is supposed to out live me by ten years."

Posted by: NMP at June 15, 2006 09:30 PM

Paladin -- thanks for the link to unity08.

Rob -- I don't think a lawyer is needed to find the ethics stuff online.

Despite all the stories about how people don't know crap from candy about this or that aspect of government and history, there are lots and lots and lots and lots of non-lawyers who understand government structure and the web well enough to get to the info in not many more than three clicks. (You should have a little more faith in the kids who exit your classroom.)

Efforts like unity08 are possible because of 1) widesread disillusionment with the existing order, and 2)the web as a tool. (God knows what the Grangers or the Mugwumps could have accomplished with it.)

You're dead right about it not being your responsibility to do opposition research. It's one of the evils of the system -- but not so evil as polling.

A candidate's responsibility is not so much find out what people think, as it is to make sure they understand what he/she thinks. Most of us would prefer the non-calibrated-post-poll version.


Posted by: jcb at June 15, 2006 10:36 PM

What is with the two top Republican candidates for the Congress and the State Senate seat both are unemployed. Is this standerd practice for the Republican party around here.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 16, 2006 01:18 PM

What is with the two top Democrat candidates for Congress and State Senate who have spent their entire adult lives being supported by taxpayers?

Can't they get real jobs in the private sector? Why not?

Posted by: paladin at June 16, 2006 04:32 PM

Huh?

Sen. Mike Jacobs ran a successfull small business for more than a decade. When was the last time you met a payroll palabushes? Didn't think so.


Posted by: DOGboy at June 16, 2006 07:55 PM

Paladin, does that mean that the private sector should take over the military, schools, law enforcement and government? Let us not be so quick to discredit those working in the public sector? Many of those positions are low paying jobs for the level of responsibility they shoulder. Most in the public sector choose their field based on service and not the bottom line. I for one am glad that they do. I am not inclined to give a person an advantage due to their choice of career (public or private), but I most definitely do not think it is detrimental to have those that have dedicated their lives to public service decide to run for political office.

Posted by: Rob Mellon at June 16, 2006 08:34 PM

Pardon my ignorance DOGboy, I thought Mike had been an aide to his daddy ever since he had been out of school.

BTW, what small business did Mike run?

Posted by: paladin at June 16, 2006 08:51 PM

Mr. Beydler,

I would like to inform one of your anonymous followers who made a post on June 16th at 1:18PM that I am gainfully employed and enjoy my work. I have never received unemployment benefits. Sincerely, James M. Beals, State Senate Candidate, 36th District.

Posted by: James Beals at June 16, 2006 09:12 PM

Where do you work Mr. Beals?

Posted by: DOGboy at June 17, 2006 12:36 PM

Rob, I was just poking a stick at anon@1:18pm, I wasn't saying that the private sector should take over everything.

It is interesting to think about what a US Military of mercenaries would be like though.

Another thing to consider is a private sector school system. We have some serious problems in public schools. Too much time spent on social engineering projects for one thing. Another is the obstructionism of the teacher unions who have their member's interest at heart and not the students. Unfortunately, I'm not sufficiently informed to debate you about why a private sector school system would be superior to our current public system, but in my view, it is an atrocity that the poorer schools, with large minority populations, are so poorly served by the school systems. Since Democrats own the teacher unions, I don't understand why more hasn't been done. I thought Democrats were the party of the downtrodden and poor. I guess you need a union contract to qualify. (snork!)

But mostly, my comment was critical of people like Phil Hare (and I thought Mike Jacobs, though DOGboy hasn't told us about Mike's fabbalus small business career yet), that work for over 20 years on the taxpayer's dime, then want to spend the rest of their lives sucking off the taxpayer's teats. Hare will be getting retirement benefits already, due to his 20+ years in Lane's service, why not give some one else a chance to suck off the taxpayers?

And Rob, I know this is seriously OT, but I'm curious as to what your students think about your quixotic run for Congressman of the 17th.

Posted by: paladin at June 17, 2006 01:59 PM

Hey DOGboy, answer my question about Mike Jacobs' "successfull(sic) small business" career.

Posted by: paladin at June 17, 2006 03:17 PM

Mike ran a successfull public relations firm.

So what does Beals do for a living? Do tell.

Posted by: DOGboy at June 17, 2006 07:38 PM

Paladin - I did not mean to go overboard with the discussion on the public sector.

My students had so much faith - they thought that I was going to win. They made signs for me and everything. I did not really talk about it in class outside of answering questions and talking about the process. My classroom is not the place for campaigning. In fact, I prided myself on keeping my political affiliation a secret by always playing the devil's advocate. That of course was not possible with my name in the 17th nomination process for the Democratic Party.

I do want to make one thing clear - this was not a one-time deal for me. I fully intend on using this process to start building a political base. I am out of the current political process - that means I have plenty of time to plan. I will be patient and look for the next opportunity. If Zinga happens to defeat Hare - I will run for the Democratic nomination in 2008. With two years of planning and with some lessons I have learned the next time I am a candidate it will not be a one-man show. I will be prepared, organized and even more dedicated. I will travel the 17th district the next few years – going to city council meetings and other community events. I will make sure that I know the issues that the people in the district feel are important.

Posted by: Rob Mellon at June 17, 2006 10:02 PM

Mr. Beals where is it that you are employed. The Secret Service I suppose. It seems as if there is conflicting info of you working or not. For you not to name your employer while a candidate for Senate is troubling.

Please respond. We deserve to know

Posted by: Anonymous at June 18, 2006 01:22 PM

Power to you, Rob---you're doing good work! You are to be commended for your work bringing the younger generation into the political process, if nothing else. It's so easy for the high school/college crowd to be either cynical or oblivious to the political process, since they feel (probably rightly) that they don't have a stake in the future of governance. I do hope there will be an awakening and Rob, you have my appreciation and admiration for your efforts in that.

I'm from a generation that became interested in politics naturally----the VietNam war was raging and the draft was in effect. Politics was literally a do or die proposition. Thankfully, we don't have that situation now, but you exposing your students to the political process in this way will help future generations to understand that it is possible to make a difference.

Posted by: paladin at June 18, 2006 02:10 PM

Good lord anon@1:22pm, get a grip. If Phil is elected, which he most certainly will be, he will be sucking off two of the taxpayer's teats. He'll be getting taxpayer financed retirement for over 20 years of faithful coffee-fetching for Lane, and he'll get his Congressman's salary of about $130k =/+. How much should one individual be allowed to suck off taxpayers? It's obvious that to people like you, anon, the sky's the limit if it's a Democrat doing the sucking.

Sheesh!

Posted by: paladin at June 18, 2006 02:59 PM

Hey, Dogboy. Successful public relations firm? Are you talking about his one-man "campaign consulting" outfit? The one that was so successful he gave up for that stay-at-home job his daddy got him with Jesse White?

Posted by: Anonymous at June 18, 2006 04:49 PM

No, I am talking about the public relations firm Mike Jacobs operated for more than a decade.

Now please Jim, quit hiding behind personal attackes and tell us what you actually do for a living? Simply, where do you work? Are you ashamed? Are you an exotic dancer or something? This is reedickulous!

Posted by: DOGboy at June 19, 2006 12:30 AM

Paladin,

I agree that $119k for running a district office is a lot of cash, but would you make the same comment about Hare's retirement and salary if Hare was a retired Army Colonel running for Congresss?

I'm just trying to guage whether your aversion is that the job with Evans was cake, that the Hare has spent a career in government service, or that Beals is your guy.

Posted by: Huck Finn at June 19, 2006 08:07 AM

Huck- Hare's double-dipping is the least of my objections. The whole Evans/Hare/Jacobs/Gianulis Exclusive Democrat Clubhouse makes me feel like I'm living in some banana republic.

Would I feel differently if a retired Colonel ran for office? Sure, because he/she would bring important experience to the job. The only "experience" Hare has is politics. So yeah, a Colonel would bring more "real-life" experience, to say nothing of foreign policy expertise, than Lane Evans' toady.

I don't know anything about Beals----I'll just have to wait and see. DOGboy and one or more anonymice imply Beals and Zinga are unemployed. Beals has already shot that down in comments here. I assume DOGboy/anons feel that being Evans' toady is the highest and best calling.

Considering the ease with which Hare has rolled up this election----they may be correct!

I will not be voting for either Hare or Jacobs, since both obtained their positions in the ugliest Politics As Usual manner. I may not be voting for Zinga and Beals either, depending on my mood on the first Tuesday in November, and what I find out about Beals. Maybe I'll just write in Mellon.

Posted by: paladin at June 19, 2006 03:58 PM

Okay, then you're thinking the same way I am on this. The whole thing. I think Rob should sign up for a write-in campaign, so we at least have an outlet to avoid "voter's remorse" on the first Wednesday in November.

Posted by: Huck Finn at June 19, 2006 04:24 PM

Mike Jacobs may have been appointed to fill his father's vacated senate seat, but at least he has run and won his primary. That's more than Hare will be able to do.

Posted by: LM at June 19, 2006 04:24 PM

Jacobs didn't work for the sec of state very long. Denny has a bunch of kids. Do they all have state jobs?

Posted by: Anonymous at June 19, 2006 04:33 PM


Mike Jacobs was a staffer for the Senate Dems briefly, then ran a consulting firm, then served as a regional director for Secretary of State White for a number of years before entering the State Senate. He's a graduate of the University of Illinois @ Springfield and a Florida University in graduate studies for politics.

I know those to be some of the highlights of his professional career prior to entering the State Senate.

Posted by: grillmaster deluxe II at June 19, 2006 09:27 PM

James Beals,

Why won't you tell us where you work? Are you a professional dancer or something? Do you work for the CIA? Come on James the public deserves to know what you do for a living? And while you are at it Mr. Beals, tell us why you lost your job at GE, Deere and the Arsenal. Please do tell!

Paladine, count yourself among the few that will be voting against Phil Hare and for James Beals. Congrats I guess. By the way palofrepublicans, didn't you say you were moving to Iowa? What gives? Do you need help packing?

Posted by: DOGboy at June 19, 2006 10:52 PM

Mr. Beydler,

I had a good meeting today with the local Editorial Board. I provided information on my current employer, work history, and position on various political issues. I look forward to their publication.

Sincerely,
James M. Beals, State Senate Candidate, 36th District

P.S. DOGboy, you have quite a sense of humor.

Posted by: James Beals at June 20, 2006 04:41 PM

Beals, or no Beals?

Telling media elite what you do for a living is one thing, but don't the voters deserve to know what our next state Senator does for a living? Well? Don't we?

Do tell James!


Posted by: DOGboy at June 20, 2006 06:00 PM

Dogboy -- down a little; Beals emailed me the stuff he gave the edit board. Don't ask me why he didn't just post it along with the above. Maybe he doesn't know how to cut and paste.

Anyway, haven't had a chance to deal with that, but will find time later tonite, (unless Beals figures out how to cut and paste in the meantime, and takes care of it.

Off to play chess now ...

Posted by: jcb at June 20, 2006 06:26 PM

Mr. Beydler, I look forward to playing you in a game of chess. I would like to see Mike Jacobs posting on your website. I look forward to Judy Barr Topinka being our next Governor.

All, FYI - I work for Kress Corporation and have enjoyed all of my previous work experiences.

DOGboy - The only job you could say I "lost" was when the GE union plant closed I was working for and all of the jobs went to Mexico. By the way, I am pro-labor. I transferred to the GE Corporate Headquarters in Fairfield, CT.

Below are some Q/A items I provided to the D/A.
Why are you running for the Senate?
My job at the Rock Island Arsenal fell under the BRAC realignment and was destined to relocate to Detroit, Michigan in the next few years. In addition, I did not feel that our district received our fair share of state funding and could have better representation. I left my job and collected over 1,000 signatures to be placed on the ballot in the Primary Election. I offer the voters a viable option as their voice in Springfield.

What are your qualifications?
I am an Eagle Scout, West Point Graduate, and Army Veteran with over 14 years of business experience. I have been involved in politics as a precinct committeeman and committee treasurer. My education, values, and work experiences translate into an effective leader who also happens to be, one of us.

What do you consider the critical issues of the 36th District?
Our district is job starved, lacks economic development, and is not receiving our fair share in State funding as proven by funds not received to pay for the expansion of Western Illinois University and operating costs of Black Hawk College. The level of constituent service also does not even come close to that offered by Congressman Evans office on a daily basis.

Republican do not often win in Rock Island County, what will you do differently?
I look at myself as a candidate who is to willing listen and work with both sides of the aisle. I was raised by a conservative Democratic family and am running as a Republican. There are good ideas brought forward by both parties and I would proudly co-sponsor a good idea, regardless of the source.

What are your views on education funding?
Funding education, at all levels, is the best investment our state can make. Our children will be the future leaders of our society and they must be well educated. We must also ensure that we recruit and retain the best teachers in the country that are held accountable to high standards and well compensated.

Would you vote for the Governors plan to sell the lottery to get money for education?
No, this is a very bad plan brought forward by the Governors inability to be fiscally responsible with our taxpayers dollars. The plan is short sighted and will result in a long term economic loss for the State of Illinois. There are better ways to fund our education programs.

What would you do to bring more jobs into the area?
I would work with city councils, county boards, and various agencies that promote economic development and plan for the best long term investments in our area. I would help facilitate the process to construct new buildings while giving credit to everyone involved. Our current administration has run jobs out of Illinois and limited business growth by increasing annual operating expenses.

How would you compare the business climate between Illinois and Iowa?
You can look across the river and see the rapid growth of the Iowa Quad Cities due to the beneficial business climate, lower property taxes, and the government�s leadership in working with the business community. If we diverted some financial benefits from Chicago to the Illinois Quad Cities and worked together as a team, there would be a tremendous growth spurt.

The Governor has borrowed a lot of money. What is you view on the state financial condition?
The General Assembly passed a $59 billion dollar state budget without the support of a single Republican. If he had a good plan, then there would have been unanimous support. We are going down a path of borrowing funds without a plan to immediately repay them. In laymans terms, I certainly would not want my parents to take out a VERY long term loan that held me and my future children accountable to pay off.

Sincerely,
James M. Beals, State Senate Candidate, 36th District.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 20, 2006 07:42 PM