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March 08, 2006

On the politics scene...

The D/A had a couple of 36th District Senate primary stories today.

One is based on Mike Jacobs' appearance before the editorial board.

The other is about the anonymous push poll mis-stating Paul Rumler's position on abortion.

Also on the political front: The Illinois Quad City Chamber of Commerce and the Young Professionals Network of the Quad Cities is sponsoring a candidates' forum at 6 p.m. in the Denkmann Building at Augustana College. All three GOP congressional hopefuls and Rumler are among the candidates committed to attend.

The Moline Democratic Maverick posted on the phone-bank controversy. There's also a lively discussion at the Dope's place.

Posted by jcb at March 8, 2006 10:05 AM

Comments

No Jacobs at the candidate forum huh. Must be because "everyone knows" where he stands on the issues. I don't know about anyone else, but I have no clue.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 10:25 AM

Isn't the Senate in session this week?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 10:36 AM

Too bad Jacobs won't be at the forum tonight, maybe he could clear this one up for me:

Saw Jacobs on the news last night. Said he's pro-smoking (referring to a bill that limits where people can smoke, including smoking in college dorm rooms). Now, I found this to be a curious thing to say. Mike doesn't smoke, I don't believe. Why on earth would he vote against a bill that banned smoking in college dorms? And prevent fires in crowded buildings? Hmmm?

Thankfully the Dope provided us with a link to the truth (via the campaign financing site):

RJ Reynolds PO Box 2955
Winston-Salem, NC 27102
$500.00
9/22/2005 Individual Contribution to Friends of Mike Jacobs

Mike, are you really "Pro-smoking"? Or did you realize that the bill was going to pass in the senate, with or without your vote? Then figured you better show your contributors that you are fighting for their interests?

Stumping for RJ Reynolds is despicable enough, please don't put our college students into unsafe dorms while you are doing it.

For those that haven't checked out the link, please do so. It's amazing how much dirty money Mike has accepted.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 11:00 AM

I think it's horrible that people get on these blogs and say anything they want - oh exept on the Inside Dope where if you say something he doesn't like he doesn't print it. Interesting.

$500 isn't enough money to make anyone do anything at the Capitol.

I am personally against smoking but don't feel like it's my right to tell people whether they can smoke or not. These people are becoming lepers in our society.

A friend of mine told me that there are places outside that it is unacceptable to smoke now.

It's a matter of time before you can't smoke anywhere except in the privacy of your own home - and a dorm room is your rented domain on campus.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 12:09 PM

Now that Personal Pac, the largest Pro-choice group in Illinois,has come forward and related that they made the calls in question after reviewing the two candidate's position, I wonder if you will continue to smear Senator Mike Jacobs good name?

In addition Mr. Bydler, have you filed an in-kind donation related to your role as Paul Rumler's campaign manager?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 12:26 PM

It also looks like Mike took money from the Riverstone group right around the time that the backroom deals were being made to bring the pig plant to the QC. Mike is acting with his wallet.

I'm sorry, but I don't feel that the appointed Senator represents my values and beliefs very well.

He's so pompous that he even tells the Dispatch that he's fighting for "re-election". The Dispatch is quick to point out that Mike has never been elected; therefore he can't be seeking "re-election". Such is the nature of those who go through life having things handed to them.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 01:08 PM

Jacobs is considered the incumbant

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 01:27 PM

His signs say elect. Not re-elect. His signs are from a union printer though. there is a Union printer in Illinois. Right to work shops play the field whichever way you want them to play it.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 01:47 PM

How about a retraction about Jacobs doing this push poll that you were spouting. The Rumler camp is getting despirate.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 01:49 PM

I think this is the pot calling the kettle black. Rumlers ties with the trial lawers and there disagreement with Jacobs on keeping Doctors in Illinois. Jacobs voted against these trial attornies so that Seniors and children could have affordable health care. And for what Mr. Rumler $500. This is a shame.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 01:53 PM

The Senate is in session today and tomorrow.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 01:57 PM

To anon@12:26 pm: Where did you get your information that PersonalPac was behind the phone calls and misrepresentation of Rumler's views on abortion? Information, please.

Posted by: paladin at March 8, 2006 01:57 PM

Why would Personal Pac slander someone that IS pro-choice? That doesn't make sense. Why would Personal Pac offer to hand out Mike Jacobs yard signs? Why would Personal Pac hide their phone number with a bogus 800?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 01:58 PM

Smoking in dorm rooms is dangerous for more reasons than the health risks. Fires in crowded buildings are often disastrous.

Mike was voting with the money, not with his community.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 01:59 PM

Mike has taken in a lot of money. Rumler has taken in very little. I agree with this statement.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 02:00 PM

Mike Jacobs passed a bill for blind vendors last week. Does that mean that he is blind, or did the blind pay him off.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 02:06 PM

I think that it is good that our politicians have a good amount of money in the bank. Do you think that Representatives and Senators should have pennies in the bank to go up against a Republican candidate. Get real people. If you truly understand Politics you would realize Money in the bank will get a Democrat elected in our area. Unless you want to lose the seat to a republican. I for one want a strong politician that has the money to beat a Republican Candidate. Money in the bank for our politicians brings much great prosperity to the community.

I guess my glass is half full!

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 02:14 PM

Young people are called to defend our country. At the very least they should have the right to smoke in their private residence.

I can't believe Paul Rumler doesn't believe in private property. Yoiung adults are not children, but voters. I hope smockers are aware of Rumler's crazy positions.

Posted by: BREAKINGNEWZ at March 8, 2006 02:14 PM

Wow, Breakingnewz, that's a pretty imaginative comment.

Let's see: Jacobs voted for smokers, which is an OK thing.

He gets criticized by people who don't think it's an OK thing.

Ergo, Rumler, who hasn't said a word, "doesn't believe in private property."

That's a world-class failure in logic, as most "smockers" will agree.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 02:35 PM

Rumler will be beat by the republican challenger due to lack of funds. See how that bodes for our community. I thought he was probably an okay guy till he came to my door. He may be intelligent but he's not very smart. Most of you commenters need to get a life. They'll let you post anything here. The Dope has quitting posting a lot of posts. He picks and chooses. Maybe Beydler should do that too. Some of this is really stupid.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 02:41 PM

Good lord anon@2:14 PM, where do you live? Obviously not in RICO. The last time Republicans sent a Congressman to represent the 17th Dist. was the '70s and Railsback (22 years ago). How about representatives to Springfield? Who was our Senator before SNEM's daddy? I can't even remember. I've lived here 30 years and I can't even remember when a Republican was in the RI Courthouse. Thanks to gerrymandering, we're guaranteed Dems in Congress until all the union people die or move to Florida or Arizona. So spare me your paranoid rantings about the evil Republicans taking over RICO----we should all be so lucky to actually live in two-party democracy, instead of being ruled by the Politburo.

Posted by: paladin at March 8, 2006 02:47 PM

Senator Mike Jacobs also won the endorsement of Planned Parenthood. I hear they are making contacts with voters as well.

Posted by: BREAKINGNEWZ at March 8, 2006 02:55 PM

Wow, Jacobs Spin machine is working overtime today.

The good news is that most people have a basic understanding of logic, and realize that there is a 99.9% chance that Jacobs is behind all of these "attacks", and is also the one stumping for himself here in the blogosphere.

I hope there aren't too many "smockers" in the QC. The name alone is creepy.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 03:27 PM

I think people make typos. Nice that you can go on and on and on about that.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 04:04 PM

I visited the Personal Pac website -- discovered the organization has endorsed Jacobs, but saw nothing about rationale for individual endorsements, and anything about telephone calls.


Maybe anon@12:26 pm can share the source on his claim that Personal Pac made the calls.

Posted by: jcb at March 8, 2006 05:24 PM

I pretended like I was a reporter and called the only two groups that it could be. I was right on the first try. If this is an editor making freshman mistakes. then wow are we in for trouble.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 09:16 PM

Well I wish I were the house anon 3:27 becouse the 99.99% shot just came in. You people owe Jacobs an appology.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 09:21 PM

duhhhhhh. try calling them and asking them. the person in charge is terry cosgrave.

do i have to write the stories too?

Posted by: BREAKINGNEWZ at March 8, 2006 09:28 PM

From the dispatch Argus on March 8th:

"Mr. Jacobs, who was appointed to the senate seat last year, denied that his campaign is connected to the phone calls"

Mike Jacobs financial report was filed on March 6th. This report included a 27K contribution of slanderous phone calls. Hmm. Jacobs wasn't involved huh?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 10:48 PM

Anon 9:21, what are you talking about. The report justified my comment. The Jacobs Campaign was directly involved in these phone calls. They knew about them, they accepted them as a contribution. How do you figure I owe him an apology? It turns out I was right (as well as most everyone else on here) in assuming that Jacobs was behind it. What we'll never know is how much Denny had to lean on Jesse White to get this organization to agree with this sort of slander. I suppose we may find out if Rumler names Friends of Mike Jacobs c/o Personal Pac in a Slander case.

This stuff smelled of Jacobs from the get-go, and finally it's proven. I hope the press picks up on this. Even though the number was untraceable, the money leads the case back to Mike Jacobs. Terrific work Senator! This type of attack really represents the honest nature of your constituents.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 8, 2006 10:54 PM

The D/A has more on the poll story.

Posted by: jcb at March 9, 2006 12:04 AM

A non-response is not a license to say whatever you want about someone. This is incredible.

I don't know how Jacobs can pretend to not have any involvement in this. The money is on his books, he gave the OK, and they were giving out his yard signs. Itís unbelievable that he is able to get away with this. All without a simple phone call to check Rumler's position.

In the day and age of junk mail they are basing their slander on something written in italics, which may or may not have been received or read by Rumler.

That non-response will be assumed as a negative will not hold up in court.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 9, 2006 06:45 AM

Rumler is crying that his dog ate his homework. That doesn't fly in the real world.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 9, 2006 07:17 AM

Rumler looks like a cry baby.

As Rumler does not have a job, why do you think he didn't have time to fill out either of the two survey's sent to him.

Does anyone know anything about Rumler's association with the the state Senator from the Boston area? Advise.

Posted by: BREAKINGNEWZ at March 9, 2006 10:18 AM

Ladies and gentlemen, the mature Jacobs attack dogs are back.

They spell at a 3rd grade level, and use 1st grade logic.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 9, 2006 11:58 AM

I hope I'm not the only one who finds this whole Personal PAC/SNEM thing strange. From the account in today's D/A, Personal PAC said they were becoming active here because they hadn't in the past. This makes me think that the pro-abortion activists have raked in the money from fear-mongering the Roberts/Alito SCOTUS nominations and have money to burn.

Let's get real here---does anyone believe Cosgrave when he says "People here want to make Illinois another South Dakota"? Since when is Illinois a hotbed of anti-abortion activists? Uh, like since never, since IL in one of the bluest of Blue States. Plus, here in the 36th and 17th Dist. we have had Democrats in office since forever, and we know they must show fealty to the pro-choice position if they ever expect to get elected. All this just doesn't make any sense.

Since Personal PAC indicated that it assumed anti-choice was Rumler's position since he didn't fill out their survey, I'd be interested in what SNEM's answers were to questions like "Would you SUPPORT restoring abortion coverage under the State Medicaid plan?" and others. Is there any way we can see SNEM's survey results?

But whatever. I don't hold SNEM personally responsible for the actions of Personal PAC, but it would be nice for SNEM to stand up and denounce Personal PAC for spreading the rumors that Rumler is anti-choice. That's the least he could do.

Posted by: paladin at March 9, 2006 01:00 PM

What does SNEM stand for? I am newer to this blog and must have missed it.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 9, 2006 02:58 PM

They were giving away his signs. He certainly had prior knowledge to all of this. The 27K is on his books. Why? Couldn't the Pac do it on their own accord? I'll ask it another way, if this were a 3 way race, and they slandered only 1 of the candidates, whose books would the money go on?

The whole thing wreaks of fish, Denny, Jesse White, and the "Big" appointee. Why would Personal Pac hide their number if they were out to talk to pro-life people? Why didn't they call Rumler before wasting 27K (considering Rumler only had like 2K at that point)? Are they now held accountable for defamation of character?

Why did Jacobs lie to the Dispatch? Did they hope to keep this hush-hush, until the sh#t hit the fan, then they hurried around to separate Mike from it?

Posted by: Anonymous at March 9, 2006 03:39 PM

Why would he denounce it. Rumler tried to play to his Alleman ties. He remembers to fill out the green party flyer but not the Pro choice flyer. He was being cute. So I don't get the endorsement, so what. He didn'y yhink it would ammount to this. Then he gets so upset he hurts himself with his Allmen base. The Catholics are going to get the Rumler is for abortion mailers. Is he going to cry then. It is hard to have views. Mr. Rumler may want to stand up and be counted next time.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 9, 2006 03:41 PM

Anon 6:45 A non response shows that one is not willing to stand up and be counted. I think that it is very disapointing that Mr. Rumler didn't have the courage to fill out the questions. If he had known that the group would have done a phone bank would he have found the time or the courage. We need somone that is willing to make the tough decissions. Say what you want Jacobs will give his oppinion on the issues.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 9, 2006 03:46 PM

I'd like to know what Rumler meant when he said the methodology of the Personal PAC survey was "irresponsible".

To anon@2:58 PM: SNEM = Selected Not Elected Mike.

Posted by: paladin at March 9, 2006 06:49 PM

I think he was suggesting that the Pac was being irresponsible by launching a 27,000 dollar attack on a candidate that is pro-choice.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 10, 2006 07:50 AM

Cosgrove is tight with Jesse White, don't think that Denny didn't play a hand in all of this.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 10, 2006 07:50 AM

Rumler went to Moline High, not Alleman.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 10, 2006 07:51 AM

Take responsability Paul. You didn't fill out the questions that were sent. Which is it? Did you forget to send it in or was it a calcuated choice. I see no other explanation. Maybe someone could get a statement on this. Either way it is bad judgement.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 10, 2006 08:49 AM

Yes, yes, yes, I too would also like a statement on this important issue from Paul Rumler.

Why didn't Paul have his staff fill out the surveys? Didn't this key Democrat constituency send Paul two letters?

As Runmler doesn't have job, he clearly has the time to take care of important surveys from the likes of Personal Pacs.

Did Paul Rumler really think Personal Pac was going to come to his door and fill the papers out for him? Is Rumler so uniformed about Illinois politcs that he didin't understand Personal Pac is a major player in Democrat politics? Didn't they have pro-choice groups in Boston, Maryland, Georgia and DC?

Rumler's slip is showing and it isn't very pretty!

Posted by: MrDemocrat at March 10, 2006 11:17 AM


My goodness, so much huffing and puffing over what has become a mainstay in American politics -- third party, outside groups coming into districts on single issues. It may not be a healthy addition to democracy, but all these folks whining about the integrity of the Jacobs campaign are way, way off base. This is a campaign. Rumler is getting punished for blowing off their survey and not taking them seriously. Some interest groups do that. Pro life and pro choice, pro gun and pro business and pro labor groups. Wake up folks.

Posted by: anonymous at March 10, 2006 04:15 PM