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January 23, 2006

How did the pancake feed go?

As it turned out, I didn't make it by the Rumler pancake breakfast Saturday. Any word on how many showed up? Or who the most interesting guests were?

Posted by jcb at January 23, 2006 02:25 PM


There were a lot of people there when I showed up around 9:30. They had to open another room so I had somewhere to sit. I didn't recognize anyone too interesting, then again, I'm not all that politically active, so, unless Lane Evans was there I probably wouldn't have recognized anyone.

Posted by: Local Dem at January 23, 2006 03:55 PM

Speaking of which, there's an interesting story coming in the Tuesday D/A about the senator's big high-speed rail announcement ... the one that it turns out isn't, in fact, in the budget...

Posted by: Michael Romkey at January 23, 2006 08:13 PM

Some in attendance reported Rep. Mike Boland putting in an appearance, as noted on The Inside Dope.

Posted by: TID at January 23, 2006 09:12 PM

And Mike... is it too soon to label it "The Train to Nowhere"?

Posted by: TID at January 23, 2006 09:14 PM

Sorry, Dope. Should have checked your place before asking the question.

Posted by: jcb at January 23, 2006 09:33 PM

This train deal deserves its own string, John. I feel an editorial coming on.

Posted by: Michael Romkey at January 24, 2006 08:14 AM

I posted about the "Train to Nowhere"ô
It has sparked a debate of sorts between myself and another commenter which seems to fall between "good idea, really needed, it's a good start" and "a high speed link to a town of barely over 6,000 that's 18 minutes away by "high-speed" car? Aren't there better things to spend money on."

Posted by: TID at January 24, 2006 09:50 AM

Are you guys embaresed about your misreporting on the money for the train not in the budget. The TV reported that you guys rushed to judgement and prematurely reported bad information. I find it queer that the argus would rush to conclusions without checking facts.

I am not quite sure what you were trying to do with this story.

Posted by: Madison at January 24, 2006 09:34 PM

I don't understand why the paper would be against a train from the QC and Chicago. My understanding is that if we don't get the 20 million from the state and the 180 million federal dollars. That this money will go to other projects in Chicago or someplace else. Just because you don't see the need for a high speed Fuel efficient train that would help the area and the environment doesnt mean that you should rush to pour water on it. This is my town . I have lived here for 63 years and to see people who are probably not even for the area downing the attempt for progress to get ratings is unexcusable. I find it encouraging that Sen Mike Jacobs would stand up and try and help this area to make it a better place. You should try and be as positive.

Posted by: BJB at January 24, 2006 09:48 PM

Please cite a single report anywhere which states that the facts reported in the Dispatch/Argus are incorrect. Othewise, please refrain from trying to distort the facts.

The article stated that the money for this project is not found in the budget.

An article here from WQAD which might be the TV story you distort, notes that some are trying to confuse the facts, but cites none other than Sen. Jacobs himself saying that the money and/or project is not in the budget. This of course, is exactly what it says in the article you are trying to discredit.

I'd also note that those who are further trying to distort the issue in Jacobs' behalf are reading things into the articles which simply aren't there.

How do you come to the conclusion that the Dispatch/Argus or anyone else are somehow "downing an attempt for progress" or anything of the kind?


I think the point of the matter is trying to keep Jacobs honest, which is a huge undertaking. He was giving the impression that this project was something he was working to bring to the area. This may stil be true, and I don't doubt it.
But he was leaving the impression that it was a project which was in process and imminent.

So when someone finds out that a project a state senator is featuring and using to burnish his image is entirely absent from the state budget, that is certainly worthy of noting.

How could you argue otherwise?

Posted by: TID at January 24, 2006 11:14 PM

Madison, I'm not sure what you're talking about. The D/A story quoted Matt Vanover, a spokesman for the Illinois Department of Transportation, as saying, "there's nothing in the budget for high-speed rail in the Quad-Cities."

If the tv report you're talking about is the one from Channel 8, it did not say anyone "rushed to judgement and prematurely reported bad information" or anything even remotely like that.

Posted by: jcb at January 25, 2006 12:15 AM

John, you need to do your homework search a little you might just find it.

Posted by: Appropriations at January 25, 2006 02:12 PM

Huhhh? Find what?

Posted by: jcb at January 25, 2006 04:04 PM

Hey, speaking of things on TV that Mike Jacobs touted: money for the Thomson prison. I saw that one with my own eyes, and said to myself, "What is new in this story and why is Channel 8 making a big deal" since there was not a single fact that would lead anybody to think money WAS coming to Thomson. And of course, it wasn't, didn't, hasn't.

Posted by: Vita at January 25, 2006 04:40 PM

Only the fact that the Gov. stated that he would be back to the QC around Valentines day to give exciting news on Thompson. I saw this with my own eyes at the WIU news conference. Sometimes you news people don't have all the facts and it drives you crazy. I bet you hope the prison doesnt open so you can be right. What a shame!

Posted by: Madison at January 25, 2006 05:36 PM

John, you knew that your reporter called Sen. Mike Jacobs and initiated the discussion on the high speed rail. She got her info from the Senate Democrats appropriations new transportation authority mass transit 425 million new transportation B authorizations.
Downstate ILLinois The fifth item listed is
High capacity transit system Rock Island County
cost 200 million will include matching funds from the federal government

You new this all along and you are trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the people and to pretend that you didn't know is silly.

PS I look forward to reading this on your site!

Posted by: Jones at January 25, 2006 05:45 PM

This prior contributor's statement is not true.

When I was interviewing Sen. Mike Jacobs about the governor's State of the State address, he volunteered that the Quad-Cities was in the running for a high-speed rail connection.

I then assigned the story to Stephanie Sievers, who interviewed Sen. Jacobs and others at-lengh.

The proposal is indeed in the Senate Democrats proposed list of transportation proposals.

It is not in the governor's proposed capital budget. A spokesman for the Illinois Department of Transportation said high-speed rail for the Quad-Cities is not a priority. He added if high-speed rail were to come to Illinois, the governor's top priority is for it to run between Chicago and St. Louis.

The final budget, of course, will be one decided on by both the legislature and the governor. The Q-C train, may, or may not, be in that budget. It is a matter of negotiations. Time will tell.

Posted by: Scott Reeder -- Springfield Bureau Chief at January 26, 2006 02:01 PM

Where would you rather the train go. From Chicago to the QC or Chicago to St. Louis.
You are fighting this for what reason.


Posted by: James Madison at January 26, 2006 10:13 PM

If I am understanding you "Ace Blog Reporter" Scott Reeder. You are saying that Stephanie Sievers new from you about the proposed train being in the Senate Democrats proposed list of transportation proposals before she called Senator Mike Jacobs. Which was conspicuously absent from her report, Page 1. I think that you then meant to say that projects in the proposed mass transit budget are not earmarked for specific projects and have never been earmarked for specific projects, as you well know. They are parted out to local mass transit authority heads like Jeff Nelson. Mr. Nelson from his comments in your paper, page 7, believes this train from the QC to Chicago to be an important project for the QC. You then go on to say that if high-speed rail were to come to Illinois, the Governor's top priority is for it to run between Chicago and St. Louis. This may be the Governorís top priority and it may be the Dispatch/Argus top priority. But having the train run from the Chicago to the Quad Cities, and not to St. Louis, is Senator Mike Jacobs top priority. I would think a local paper would think so also.
The story that your paper printed was nothing like the revealing blog story that you have given Senator Jacobs here in the bottom of the pancake feed blog story. You look pretty silly with this one "Ace Blog Reporter" Scott Reeder!!!

Posted by: James Madison at January 26, 2006 11:08 PM

The point of the stories is that having a high-speed rail is a possibility for the Quad-Cities.

Sen. Mike Jacobs is advocating vigorously for this. The fact that he was able to get into the list of priorities for his caucus is impressive. It something a lot of freshmen lawmakers could not accomplish.

The stories also say this is not a priority for the governor.

So it is now the subject of negotiations. That is the way the system works. The stories I assigned to Stephanie Sievers clearly reflect this.

Are we saying we would rather see a train run between Chicago and St. Louis? No. We are simply pointing out that is what the governor's office is saying.

Now it is up legislators and the governor to hammer out a compromise.

Posted by: Scott Reeder at January 27, 2006 09:45 AM

Always fun to watch people try to put lipstick on a pig.

Posted by: TID at January 27, 2006 12:28 PM

Ace, your papers story didn't reflect this in the slightest. It suggested that this was a project that was nowere to be found. Nice try!!

Posted by: Anonymous at January 27, 2006 12:44 PM

It is nice to see that Reeder and the Argus have softened their stand on the issue of the train. I feel that they should encourage projects comming into the area. This seems like a positive way of talking about things. I like thisforum a lot.

Keep up the nice work!

Posted by: JBL at January 27, 2006 02:42 PM